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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, James.</description>
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		<title>By: james wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>james wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Highham, when the plate is finally dropped and smashed in a war with multiple fronts and proxies beyond all control, we will see then where the next diaspora pieces fall. The object for the Israelis might be to go to those places before the plate is smashed. Not that I would, or you would, or they should. 

Many have resources, financial or intellectual, to leave; many have dual passports already. To be brutally frank, nobody does it better. 

I am not telling them to get out because it is not their land; it is their land. Or because they have done anything wrong, but rather that they are the only ones capable of doing right. I would suggest to them that there is no good deed they can do that will not be punished, that the Arab and Muslim are as destructive as we think they are, that there is simply nothing to be gained there of permanence except extermination. 

The alternative is for the Israelis to do to the Muslim what the Muslim is enthusiastically prepared to do to the Jew. I do not ever see that happening. They will leave rather than exterminate their enemies. That is my only impotent point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Highham, when the plate is finally dropped and smashed in a war with multiple fronts and proxies beyond all control, we will see then where the next diaspora pieces fall. The object for the Israelis might be to go to those places before the plate is smashed. Not that I would, or you would, or they should. </p>
<p>Many have resources, financial or intellectual, to leave; many have dual passports already. To be brutally frank, nobody does it better. </p>
<p>I am not telling them to get out because it is not their land; it is their land. Or because they have done anything wrong, but rather that they are the only ones capable of doing right. I would suggest to them that there is no good deed they can do that will not be punished, that the Arab and Muslim are as destructive as we think they are, that there is simply nothing to be gained there of permanence except extermination. </p>
<p>The alternative is for the Israelis to do to the Muslim what the Muslim is enthusiastically prepared to do to the Jew. I do not ever see that happening. They will leave rather than exterminate their enemies. That is my only impotent point.</p>
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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rest of James Wilson&#039;s comments hold water but the &#039;sooner they leave&#039; is not possible.  Leave for where?  That is their homeland, in terms of history, almost as long as the Canaanites. It&#039;s like telling the English to get out because this is not their land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest of James Wilson&#8217;s comments hold water but the &#8217;sooner they leave&#8217; is not possible.  Leave for where?  That is their homeland, in terms of history, almost as long as the Canaanites. It&#8217;s like telling the English to get out because this is not their land.</p>
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		<title>By: james wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>james wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I think, to have missed your discussion, but there are  more things to foul up everywhere than time permits. 

The Israeli&#039;s are not only peaceful, they are pathologically peaceful. That is one reason I do not support their continued existence and would like to see them get out of Dodge before the loaded dice of history are actually thrown out of this cup. 

Forty years ago there was no wall, and Palestinian employment in Israel was high. An entrepreneurial economy always needs labor. Palestinians were commonly thought of as the brightest people in the Middle East, for what that&#039;s worth. 

Arafat and his merry band had no interest in anything but the removal of Jews from Palestine and a sovereign Palistinian nation. His terror saw to the impovershment and hopelessness of Palestinians that would be required to create so many potential forms of disaster. Cooperation was the enemy. He was very successful. There is no going back. A-Fat won. 

Palestinians are a people now so degraded that the their joy at the idea of Iranian nukes wiping the blot of Israel off maps does not give them pause about exactly where it is they live. 

The South Africans too did not know what to do in their situation, only that they could not move ahead and could not move back. They are moving out, in a peaceful diaspora from a territory that by all accounts is finally getting what is really coming to it. I do not imagine it is possible the Israelis will be so fortunate. 

I would love to see the &#039;Palestinians&#039; get what is coming to them. Just as has every other Arab and Muslim culture. The sooner the Israelis leave the sooner that can happen. Clausewitz would look at a Middle-East without Jews and wet his pants in anticipation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I think, to have missed your discussion, but there are  more things to foul up everywhere than time permits. </p>
<p>The Israeli&#8217;s are not only peaceful, they are pathologically peaceful. That is one reason I do not support their continued existence and would like to see them get out of Dodge before the loaded dice of history are actually thrown out of this cup. </p>
<p>Forty years ago there was no wall, and Palestinian employment in Israel was high. An entrepreneurial economy always needs labor. Palestinians were commonly thought of as the brightest people in the Middle East, for what that&#8217;s worth. </p>
<p>Arafat and his merry band had no interest in anything but the removal of Jews from Palestine and a sovereign Palistinian nation. His terror saw to the impovershment and hopelessness of Palestinians that would be required to create so many potential forms of disaster. Cooperation was the enemy. He was very successful. There is no going back. A-Fat won. </p>
<p>Palestinians are a people now so degraded that the their joy at the idea of Iranian nukes wiping the blot of Israel off maps does not give them pause about exactly where it is they live. </p>
<p>The South Africans too did not know what to do in their situation, only that they could not move ahead and could not move back. They are moving out, in a peaceful diaspora from a territory that by all accounts is finally getting what is really coming to it. I do not imagine it is possible the Israelis will be so fortunate. </p>
<p>I would love to see the &#8216;Palestinians&#8217; get what is coming to them. Just as has every other Arab and Muslim culture. The sooner the Israelis leave the sooner that can happen. Clausewitz would look at a Middle-East without Jews and wet his pants in anticipation.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t my intention, but I should have known better.

&lt;i&gt;and western meddling ceases, that is when it will be solved, not before.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t my intention, but I should have known better.</p>
<p><i>and western meddling ceases, that is when it will be solved, not before.</i></p>
<p>I agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Iamhe</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Iamhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you stirred it up that time, Cherie.

Platitudes do not cut it on these subjects.

When Iranian theocracy and Saudi oil power and competing regional hegemony eventually dies, and western meddling ceases, that is when it will be solved, not before.

You have to realise these folks are only proxies/pawns. Disposable, that is.

Of course a nuke or two could take that bet of the table.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you stirred it up that time, Cherie.</p>
<p>Platitudes do not cut it on these subjects.</p>
<p>When Iranian theocracy and Saudi oil power and competing regional hegemony eventually dies, and western meddling ceases, that is when it will be solved, not before.</p>
<p>You have to realise these folks are only proxies/pawns. Disposable, that is.</p>
<p>Of course a nuke or two could take that bet of the table&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Lord T</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cherie,   Give it time.  I am very opinionated as I&#039;m sure you have been told.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cherie,   Give it time.  I am very opinionated as I&#8217;m sure you have been told.  <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t forgotten to come over and comment, I am just rushed off my feet today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t forgotten to come over and comment, I am just rushed off my feet today.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should perhaps find some links to show how the place has changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should perhaps find some links to show how the place has changed.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/24/palestine-personal-perspectives/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are many such issues that cause friction in that way.  I haven&#039;t found you disagreeable (yet) ;-)

You are right about the oil and the Arab worlds and oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are many such issues that cause friction in that way.  I haven&#8217;t found you disagreeable (yet) <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You are right about the oil and the Arab worlds and oil.</p>
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