Comments on: Media Myths & the Civil Service Again http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/ Random thoughts and photos on my journey through life… Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:47:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PCS Members Vote for Strike Action « Cherie’s Place http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-4976 PCS Members Vote for Strike Action « Cherie’s Place Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:40:30 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-4976 [...] My original post on the proposals can be viewed here. [...] [...] My original post on the proposals can be viewed here. [...]

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1724 CherryPie Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:48:53 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1724 Putting aside the failings of the way that government departments may operate and also putting aside the evidence of greed in the private sector, there is actually a place for both public and private enterprises. Society stands to gain the most if some things are run as a service which is not for profit and some things are run as a private enterprise. Putting aside the failings of the way that government departments may operate and also putting aside the evidence of greed in the private sector, there is actually a place for both public and private enterprises.

Society stands to gain the most if some things are run as a service which is not for profit and some things are run as a private enterprise.

]]> By: james wilson http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1719 james wilson Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:09:02 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1719 The media is the last place on earth by which I would form an opinion. The myths are all yours, cheri. And do you ever have a vested interest. It is difficult for a person to understand something when her salary depends on not understanding it. The mystery of government is not how it works, but how to make it stop. The media is the last place on earth by which I would form an opinion. The myths are all yours, cheri.
And do you ever have a vested interest. It is difficult for a person to understand something when her salary depends on not understanding it.
The mystery of government is not how it works, but how to make it stop.

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1717 CherryPie Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:42:21 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1717 I can't really comment on US government workers because I have no experience of that. Your comment on British civil servants is overly simplistic. There are lots of reasons why people choose to work in the public sector as oppose to the private sector. Your statement about 'armies of civil servants crippling private enterprise' shows that you have bought into the media myths. There is a place for both public sector and private sector. I can’t really comment on US government workers because I have no experience of that.

Your comment on British civil servants is overly simplistic. There are lots of reasons why people choose to work in the public sector as oppose to the private sector. Your statement about ‘armies of civil servants crippling private enterprise’ shows that you have bought into the media myths.

There is a place for both public sector and private sector.

]]> By: james wilson http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1706 james wilson Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:21:46 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1706 An employee of a business or, theoretically, of the state, is hired strictly on the basis of how little they can be paid to secure the highest qualified applicant. The employee chooses an employer by identical if opposite understandings. It should not be more cmplicated than that. Yet in the United States, government workers get paid more in salary and pension than private workers for jobs that in most cases should not exist in the first place. They are voters, and their families are voters. The state of California has voted themselves into astounding debt and dysfunction. The British civil servant who complains of low pay is not going off to gainful private employment for what reason? Either because he is not good enough or because there is not enough such employment after extraordinary taxes to pay for statists empires based on armies of civil servants crippling private enterprise. An employee of a business or, theoretically, of the state, is hired strictly on the basis of how little they can be paid to secure the highest qualified applicant. The employee chooses an employer by identical if opposite understandings. It should not be more cmplicated than that. Yet in the United States, government workers get paid more in salary and pension than private workers for jobs that in most cases should not exist in the first place. They are voters, and their families are voters. The state of California has voted themselves into astounding debt and dysfunction.

The British civil servant who complains of low pay is not going off to gainful private employment for what reason? Either because he is not good enough or because there is not enough such employment after extraordinary taxes to pay for statists empires based on armies of civil servants crippling private enterprise.

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1258 CherryPie Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:33:09 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1258 You and I both know that but enough of the general public are taken in by the lies and spin! Campaigning in local towns is quite an eye opener. You and I both know that but enough of the general public are taken in by the lies and spin!

Campaigning in local towns is quite an eye opener.

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1257 CherryPie Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:32:12 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1257 The printed news industry is in a bit of a crisis at the moment, so you are probably right with the publish anything to sell copies even if it isn't true syndrome. Sadly quite a few people in society still believe what they read in the newspapers.. Freelance journalist are great, thankfully there are still a few around and they are such a refreshing read. I have only worked for the civil service which seems to work a bit differently from the other public sector bodies. I pick all this up from networking with trade union activists in other public sector fields. The printed news industry is in a bit of a crisis at the moment, so you are probably right with the publish anything to sell copies even if it isn’t true syndrome. Sadly quite a few people in society still believe what they read in the newspapers..

Freelance journalist are great, thankfully there are still a few around and they are such a refreshing read.

I have only worked for the civil service which seems to work a bit differently from the other public sector bodies. I pick all this up from networking with trade union activists in other public sector fields.

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1256 CherryPie Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:26:35 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1256 I do notice that the posts I think are my best get very few comments. Then some of my rather daft ones, get loads!!! In your case when you complain you haven't got many comments it is usually that you have researched the subject so well there is nothing to add. I do notice that the posts I think are my best get very few comments. Then some of my rather daft ones, get loads!!!

In your case when you complain you haven’t got many comments it is usually that you have researched the subject so well there is nothing to add.

]]> By: CherryPie http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1255 CherryPie Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:24:28 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1255 It is sad but true Uber. Then you compare that to what the people at the very top are earning and the fact the gap is widening! It is sad but true Uber. Then you compare that to what the people at the very top are earning and the fact the gap is widening!

]]> By: jams O'Donnell http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2009/08/04/media-myths-the-civil-service-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1254 jams O'Donnell Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:58:03 +0000 http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/?p=823#comment-1254 Ach Cherie when does a rag like the Mail report objectively when dealing with public employees. More lazy hackdom.. 490,000 civil servants working in Whitehall? I give thanks I don't work there it sounds a bit crowded to me! Ach Cherie when does a rag like the Mail report objectively when dealing with public employees. More lazy hackdom.. 490,000 civil servants working in Whitehall? I give thanks I don’t work there it sounds a bit crowded to me!

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