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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41949</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-)</description>
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		<title>By: ubermouth</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41938</link>
		<dc:creator>ubermouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know and I love it. :) Not being an artist I would never &#039;see&#039; things without your eyes guiding me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know and I love it. <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Not being an artist I would never &#8217;see&#8217; things without your eyes guiding me. <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41934</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be the husband or it could symbolize men defending women and children by resisting the oppressor.

With my photos I show the world through my eyes :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be the husband or it could symbolize men defending women and children by resisting the oppressor.</p>
<p>With my photos I show the world through my eyes <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ubermouth</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41926</link>
		<dc:creator>ubermouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I took it as the man was their oppressor,but after reading that your own research suggest that this statue is to symbolize resistance, I think the man is the woman&#039;s husband and father of the male child, a casualty of all they resist?

I am always amazed when you give us a glimpse of your mind&#039;s eye. The eye of an artist. That tree is perfectly placed to enhance the form of the statue. You have to wonder if it was accidental of not? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I took it as the man was their oppressor,but after reading that your own research suggest that this statue is to symbolize resistance, I think the man is the woman&#8217;s husband and father of the male child, a casualty of all they resist?</p>
<p>I am always amazed when you give us a glimpse of your mind&#8217;s eye. The eye of an artist. That tree is perfectly placed to enhance the form of the statue. You have to wonder if it was accidental of not? <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41919</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following on from my reply to Amfortas and in response to your thoughts.

I saw an angry defiant man looking out at the world but I was unsure of the two crumpled figures in front of him. What I didn&#039;t understand at the time was why they were crumpled and they seemed disconnected from him.

Now I see in the statue the Belgian view to German oppression and the Belgian resistance to that oppression.

I think the Belgians would understand the statue, the recent history is part of their heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following on from my reply to Amfortas and in response to your thoughts.</p>
<p>I saw an angry defiant man looking out at the world but I was unsure of the two crumpled figures in front of him. What I didn&#8217;t understand at the time was why they were crumpled and they seemed disconnected from him.</p>
<p>Now I see in the statue the Belgian view to German oppression and the Belgian resistance to that oppression.</p>
<p>I think the Belgians would understand the statue, the recent history is part of their heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/index.php/2015/07/22/national-monument-nkb/comment-page-1/#comment-41918</link>
		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you I didn&#039;t understand the statue when I saw it. I also did not understand the inscription on the plinth - National Monument NKB

When I got home I Googled and found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvement_National_Royaliste

Which made me think the Belgians would probably understand the monument and that I was looking at it with English eyes and thoughts. This area of Belgium suffered greatly in WWII and I am reminded of the Kazerne Dossin which I visited last year.

https://cherryelsewhere.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/kazerne-dossin/

Whilst Googling &#039;National Monument NKB&#039; I found the following link which I think you will like :-)

http://www.dracomedals.com/Belgium-WW2-National-Royalist-Movement-Resistance-Military-Medal-00447.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you I didn&#8217;t understand the statue when I saw it. I also did not understand the inscription on the plinth &#8211; National Monument NKB</p>
<p>When I got home I Googled and found this:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvement_National_Royaliste" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvement_National_Royaliste</a></p>
<p>Which made me think the Belgians would probably understand the monument and that I was looking at it with English eyes and thoughts. This area of Belgium suffered greatly in WWII and I am reminded of the Kazerne Dossin which I visited last year.</p>
<p><a href="https://cherryelsewhere.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/kazerne-dossin/" rel="nofollow">https://cherryelsewhere.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/kazerne-dossin/</a></p>
<p>Whilst Googling &#8216;National Monument NKB&#8217; I found the following link which I think you will like <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dracomedals.com/Belgium-WW2-National-Royalist-Movement-Resistance-Military-Medal-00447.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dracomedals.com/Belgium-WW2-National-Royalist-Movement-Resistance-Military-Medal-00447.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chrysalis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrysalis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2015 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm - context helps, yes, but I agree perhaps more info is needed. 

At first glance, the angry-looking man, strong and sculpted in symmetric proportion, is almost OUT of proportion with the other 2 disfigured/imperfect  figures, and has his arms folded above them rather than towards them - so my first feeling was &quot;this statue is about oppression of the weak by the strong.&quot;

But on second glance, zooming in to see where he&#039;s &quot;looking&quot;, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but it appears he&#039;s not really &quot;looking&quot; down at them, he&#039;s looking over and past them, as if at someone or something else? Also on zooming in, I noted the &quot;angry man&quot; almost looks disgusted as well as angry - not sure if that helps either opinion ;)

I was reading a book not long ago called &quot;Heretics and Heroes&quot; which goes into detail about how artists, especially during the renaissance and reformation in Europe, often give little passive-aggressive digs to their commissioners or culture that pass through without notice for payment. 

Artists, being artists, and wanting to express all they felt, had to be told several times not to take things too far (especially with unpleasantness) or risk not receiving commission funding. As we know, artists don&#039;t much care for restrictions - so at times, they &quot;snuck in&quot; little clues that told us the full extent of how they felt anyway, some of the meanings of which have been lost forever in history.  The result of this was often &quot;mixed message&quot; or an unclear message for later onlookers that we aren&#039;t clear on.

Perhaps that is the case with this later Belgian resistance statue? Most casual onlookers never notice, Cherie, good eye - and it very well may be the artist just wasn&#039;t a very good one - but it could be that it&#039;s meaning was so much more than it appears but has been lost.  Supersleuth Cherie on the case, however, may find it some day :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8211; context helps, yes, but I agree perhaps more info is needed. </p>
<p>At first glance, the angry-looking man, strong and sculpted in symmetric proportion, is almost OUT of proportion with the other 2 disfigured/imperfect  figures, and has his arms folded above them rather than towards them &#8211; so my first feeling was &#8220;this statue is about oppression of the weak by the strong.&#8221;</p>
<p>But on second glance, zooming in to see where he&#8217;s &#8220;looking&#8221;, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but it appears he&#8217;s not really &#8220;looking&#8221; down at them, he&#8217;s looking over and past them, as if at someone or something else? Also on zooming in, I noted the &#8220;angry man&#8221; almost looks disgusted as well as angry &#8211; not sure if that helps either opinion <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was reading a book not long ago called &#8220;Heretics and Heroes&#8221; which goes into detail about how artists, especially during the renaissance and reformation in Europe, often give little passive-aggressive digs to their commissioners or culture that pass through without notice for payment. </p>
<p>Artists, being artists, and wanting to express all they felt, had to be told several times not to take things too far (especially with unpleasantness) or risk not receiving commission funding. As we know, artists don&#8217;t much care for restrictions &#8211; so at times, they &#8220;snuck in&#8221; little clues that told us the full extent of how they felt anyway, some of the meanings of which have been lost forever in history.  The result of this was often &#8220;mixed message&#8221; or an unclear message for later onlookers that we aren&#8217;t clear on.</p>
<p>Perhaps that is the case with this later Belgian resistance statue? Most casual onlookers never notice, Cherie, good eye &#8211; and it very well may be the artist just wasn&#8217;t a very good one &#8211; but it could be that it&#8217;s meaning was so much more than it appears but has been lost.  Supersleuth Cherie on the case, however, may find it some day <img src='http://www.cheriesplace.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2015 01:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art as a form of communication is a feature of humanity. But all too often the artist is inarticulate. In this case the message is just not getting across. It looks like a brutal statement but of and about what I do not know. Is the man a thug, responsible for the woman&#039;s pain and the boy&#039;s death? Or is he an adamant resistor of a thuggery that caused the pain and death. Is he an indomitable spirit, protecting from further harm, grim in his determination, or an agent of evil? 

I am quite au fait with the view that art should elicit thought and feeling from the viewer, but random, fractured incoherent thoughts, juxtaposed and contrary, with mixed feeling all over the place seems to me to be a failure of meaning.

It could do with a written explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art as a form of communication is a feature of humanity. But all too often the artist is inarticulate. In this case the message is just not getting across. It looks like a brutal statement but of and about what I do not know. Is the man a thug, responsible for the woman&#8217;s pain and the boy&#8217;s death? Or is he an adamant resistor of a thuggery that caused the pain and death. Is he an indomitable spirit, protecting from further harm, grim in his determination, or an agent of evil? </p>
<p>I am quite au fait with the view that art should elicit thought and feeling from the viewer, but random, fractured incoherent thoughts, juxtaposed and contrary, with mixed feeling all over the place seems to me to be a failure of meaning.</p>
<p>It could do with a written explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: CherryPie</title>
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		<dc:creator>CherryPie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statue does make a powerful statement. Sadly it seems to be part of human nature to continue the cycle of war!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statue does make a powerful statement. Sadly it seems to be part of human nature to continue the cycle of war!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna@Living From Happiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna@Living From Happiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes quite a statement and one I hope we don&#039;t forget....to turn a blind eye again....but I think we continue to do this son&#039;t we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes quite a statement and one I hope we don&#8217;t forget&#8230;.to turn a blind eye again&#8230;.but I think we continue to do this son&#8217;t we.</p>
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